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Thursday, January 03, 2008

This Is How We Do The Old To The New...Thursdays

Maybe it is just about him begging you to stay…

Can you ever really have too much begging? I don’t think so. I know in the eighties we all had jokes about Keith Sweat and how he begged and whined too much in his songs. But I think it wasn’t the begging so much that had folks clowning Keith but the whining. Begging and R&B love songs go together like peanut butter and jelly, like hot butter and popcorn, like trash talking and bid whist, like... Well… you get the point…

Anyway one of my favorite songs from the eighties has some good begging going on. “Stay with me… Stay with me… Stay with me… Stay with Me… Ohhh you should be right here with me, babe… Won’t you come and stay with me because I love you so…” The song is “Stay With Me” by DeBarge. Can you think of the eighties without thinking of a DeBarge song? And what girl didn’t have a crush on at least on of those DeBarge brothers?



Man, I loved El DeBarge! What a voice. What a family full of voices. From Switch in the 70s to DeBarge in the 80s to the young Chico DeBarge (he was a fine one too...) in the 90s, that family has given us some great music. “Stay With Me” is one of those classic DeBarge songs. Biggie took the melody and flipped it in the remix of “One More Chance.” And he took the lyrics “Let me help you find yourself… Cause you don’t need nobody else” for the hook. I loved these words in the original DeBarge song. Something about the way El DeBarge sang them had me saying, ‘yes, El, help me, find me…’ Anyway... singer Neyo’s version “Stay” takes the DeBarge hook and flips it. I love this version because when you add the boom bap to anything I love it, and also because I love that hook. “Stay with me… stay with me…” Nostalgia... Gotta love it! I like all of the versions of this for different reasons. I like the DeBarge’s song because of the lyrics and the voice. I like Biggie’s song because that was a hot song and brings back fond memories of my graduate school party days. Like I said, nostalgia, gotta love it... And, I like Neyo’s song because he really took the old and made something new and fresh. Check them out and let me know what you think…

DeBarge “Stay With Me”



Biggie “One More Chance” (Remix)



Neyo “Stay”

28 comments:

elle said...

Ok i hadn't heard the DeBarge or Ne-Yo songs, but One More Chance? Ooh! I love that song.

I remember loving Time Will Reveal by DeBarge and some faster tracks. Don't know how I missed this one.

Gwyneth Bolton said...

Elle,

"Time Will Reveal" was the cut! "What can I do to make you feel secure? Remove all your doubt, so that you know for sure that you're the apple of my eye girl... fulfillment of my dream... Time will show the value of just what you mean to me... More precious than silver, more precious than diamond rings...." Okay I got a little extra there. But that's one of my favorite DeBarge songs. My other DeBarge cuts were "Love Me in a Special Way" and "A Dream."

And that Ready to Die CD of Biggie's is like the soundtrack to my first year in the doctoral program... memories... :-)

Gwyneth

Chicki said...

You can find just about anything! Yes, those DeBarge boys were fine...

Thanks for the musical treat.

Angelia... said...

Ooh Wee, I love Thursdays, especially the ones when I am home and can crank the volume...I remember all these songs, I also remember seeing Keith Sweat in concert with Michelle Morgan begging his behind off in "I Want Her" in 1986, never thought he was the best singer in the world but begging, he was high on the list. Great post...

angelia

Shelia said...

I used to love me some El Debarge and was mad that Janet had secretly married James Debarge...lol Keith Sweat is still the king of begging and will always be in my top 10 male artists...its not like he has the best voice...but the songs he chose were right on point.

Demon Hunter said...

Oh yes, Keith did his share of whining and begging. His begging was really annoying though. Anyway, my brother bought me DeBarge's greatest hits. At first, I was like, "No, he didn't" but soon realized I knew almost all of the songs and was jamming to them with friends in the car! I loved "One More Chance" by Big. :*)

Gwyneth Bolton said...

Chicki ~ LOL. It's You Tube. I swear anyone could find anything they're looking for on You Tube.

Angelia ~ You mean Melissa Morgan? And Keith Sweat know he can beg and whine and make those faces. LOL.

Shelia ~ Yes, Janet Jackson and James DeBarge. I'm still waiting for their secret child to come out with a song. You know that would be a talented kid if he or she really does exist. LOL.

Tyhetia ~ Yeah, Keith Sweat sounds like a fly buzzing in your ears with his. But El DeBarge.... he can sing and wouldn't have ti beg long, that's all I'm saying. And LOL at you knowing all the songs. I still know all the songs too. And I play my DeBarge Greatest Hits often.

Gwyneth

KD KING said...

Okay I had never heard this song. I do know Biggie's song. It reminds me of my college days...yeah Nostalgia. I did love El Debarge's "Love Me In A Special Way." It got remade by Tamia who sang the hell out of it.

I love me some begging songs. That's my problem today, folks dont know how to beg. I can be your bitch and your Ho, but you can't ask for forgiveness. Giiirl don't get me started.

Anyway, the all time classic begging song.
"Girl you know I-I-I- I love you..."

Yeah Lenny Williams. You know he had it bad cause he watched TV till the TV went off "Maybe you've never been in love, like I've been in love..."

Oooh child let me go put that on.

bettye griffin said...

Another great trip down memory lane, Gwyneth! I can relate to what everyone said. Gwyneth, I sat here laughing as I recalled Keith Sweat (and yes, I agree with whoever said he wasn't much of a singer) getting on his knees begging. And then, like the other person, I thought of Lenny Williams, who sounded like a damn seal (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh=oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-OH! begging for a piece of fish.

The DeBarges are a talented family - I especially like El's later forays into jazz, providing vocals for Marvin Gaye's After the Dance and the classic Dindi - but they were too young for me to have crushes on. On the other hand, I thought that Leon Sylvers was awfully cute . . . .

Incidentally, the Sylvers family was featured recently in Jet magazine. The fellows who used to have those mile-wide Afros either had shaved heads or were wearing caps, suggesting they've lost all that hair.

Angelia... said...

Oh yeah, it is Melissa isn't it, sixteen days from 51 and can't remember a thing...and Lenny Williams is the ultimate begger...man do I love Lenny...

angelia

Gwyneth Bolton said...

KD ~ Lenny Williams knew he could beg girl. "I--I---I--I.... love you..." And you are so right. That's the problem with music today. Folks done forgot how to beg. They need to bring that classic begging back. LOL.

Bettye ~ I LOVED the Sylvers. I loved that song "Hot Line." "Hot line, hot line, I'm calling on the hot line for your love for your love... Operator, excuse me please, but this is more than an emergency..." That was another talented and good looking family. And I saw that write up about them in Jet .

Gwyneth

Don said...

One More Chance is that deal. So is the Debarge song. Second time I was fortunate enough to listen to it today. I don't know why I never really got into Ne-Yo though.

People love when people stay. Makes a person feel wanted, I guess.

Happy 'o8!

shelia said...

lol Gwyneth...that secret love child is the one that Reba adopted...hee HEE

Gwyneth Bolton said...

Don ~ Happy New Year to you too. That's so funny because this is the only Neyo song I was ever really to get into at all. It was the first song of his I heard and I broke my three song rule and purchased the CD without hearing more. I haven't purchased the second CD and it's still the only Neyo song I like.

Shelia ~ LOL. I know, right... I want to get a good look at this child Rebe "adopted" wink, wink...

GENESIS said...

o.k.... I love me some Debarge and Chico is whew...smokin...lol

I LOVED 'Love Me In A Special Way' and and 'Share My World'

Chico had me playing him on HEAVY rotation when he came out. Especially 'Listen To Your Man' (I think that's the title) and then he had this other lil freaky song...ok, I'ma quit cause my hubby don't get off til 5...lol

And what you know about bid whist gurl...lol

Great post and loved the videos. I could just pinch ne-yo with his cutie pie self...

Gwyneth Bolton said...

Genesis ~ Chico DeBarge is one hottie. Too bad he's having all that legal trouble. He needs to be making some music. I loved that song he did with Joe "No Gurantee."

And LOL on "And what you know about bid whist gurl...lol" Girl, not much to be honest, I suck at card games. But I know a whole lot about trash talkin'. I can trash talk my behind off! :-)

Gwyneth

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